Battery driven Electrical/Electronics

[spoke_bender]

Guys What do you think of this?

A mechanic/electrician in our place offered me a service to convert my bike's electrical/electronics to battery drive. He said all he have to do is to remove a wire from the regulator/rectifier and transfer it to another connection and basically it will make my bike's electrical/electronics battery driven. He said it would be better since the magneto will only have to focus all its power in charging the battery and thus charging would be great and all components needing electricity will be getting a stable pure DC current for a stable operation.

Of course he never told me the color of the wire that he will be tweaking so I immediately checked the wiring diagram of our bike and I was thinking that he will be cutting off the Y/R wire from the rectifier and magneto and transfer it to the positive terminal of the battery (probably fused). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Would this be good or bad for the bike, battery, electrical/electronic components?

If this would be successful, I think we would eliminate the need of installing a power relay on the horn, CDI, worries of a busted LED bulbs...hehehe (note: should it be successful)

I posted it here to consult from our masters first before doing nasty things on my bike that I might regret.

Newbie here BTW...

TIA

 

[john_carlo]

i guess he will cut the yellow wire and connect it to the battery and it will make a fast charging rectifier but the consequence of these is a shorter life span of the battery..

 

[spoke_bender]

Yup thats what I'm thinking as well, since battery might get over charged and over used by all the battery driven components. What you think?

 

[Sidro]

Ive tried already this 1 but in short period of time that my lights are on. Low Batt!

 

[spoke_bender]

So basically, if almost all electronic components are ON including headlights, the battery discharges faster than it charges. Pretty Logical. Thanks sir Sidro

 

[bluesniper3906]

Well, maybe the guy in your place had experiments regarding this things, and tried it once. But should we analyzed the diagram of our mc's electrical system, those components (i.e. headlights, park lights) and other components that consumed bigger/higher power ratings go by or pass thru rectifier and magneto to sustain the required loading and prevent the battery from immediate discharge. Unless, there maybe especial components that can help boost the storing capacity and fast charging of battery.
But still, rectifier and magneto are the main muscle power that works hard when all lighting and other components were switched on simultaneously, thus, only excess power will go to the battery for storing. So, if we will modify the sequence, the battery will suffer most (this is may assumption, feel free to comments).

Ride Safe!

 

[Sidro]

So basically, if almost all electronic components are ON including headlights, the battery discharges faster than it charges. Pretty Logical. Thanks sir Sidro

yup, and maybe your tech has/have a fast charging circuit that will boost its capacity to charge like what papa bluesniper said. But takenote that this fast charging circuit has no overload sensors to cut off the charging just incase the battery is full thats why some techs put a a switch to cut off the charging. what comes next if you forget to switch off the fast charging circuit during a longride?, replace your battery.hehehe.

Now the only work of my magneto and rectifier is to charge the battery and lit up my headlight, and the rest is directed to the battery. No fast charging circuit, no add-ons to my electrical/electronic components and specially "no low batt". hehehe,, im planning to replace my bulb lights on my meter and signal light bulbs to LED. Cause LEDz are low power consumption. bow. ronnelmarc is the 1 who give me this tips. hehehe

 

[bluesniper3906]

Now the only work of my magneto and rectifier is to charge the battery and lit up my headlight, and the rest is directed to the battery. No fast charging circuit, no add-ons to my electrical/electronic components and specially "no low batt". hehehe,, im planning to replace my bulb lights on my meter and signal light bulbs to LED. Cause LEDz are low power consumption.

+100 for similar analysis...

 

[miste3rio]

wow! thanks for great ideas.. Mine is also batery drive (headlight,Parklight(led),Tailight(led) and signal light) no fast charge circuit. What do you think?

 

[linjunvelasco]

been using my battery driven rear signal light (led R6) for about two years still no lowbat

 

[ronald031803]

my bike is battery operated 2yrs now,stock bulb in tail light,hid,stock signal light,led park light,extra led light i install a switch in rectifier,switch to normal charging at daytime,fastcharging at night,,no low batt,i tried it more than 2hrs of nightride

 

[Juno]

my bike is battery operated 2yrs now,stock bulb in tail light,hid,stock signal light,led park light,extra led light i install a switch in rectifier,switch to normal charging at daytime,fastcharging at night,,no low batt,i tried it more than 2hrs of nightride

after cuttng the yellow wire where do i install the swich? i mean to stop over charging?

 

[john_carlo]

after cuttng the yellow wire where do i install the swich? i mean to stop over charging?

sir yung yelow sa rectfier ay puputulim mo at lalagyan mo ng switch yung mismong wire check mo yung isang thread mo my hint akong nilagay dun

 

[Juno]

sir yung yelow sa rectfier ay puputulim mo at lalagyan mo ng switch yung mismong wire check mo yung isang thread mo my hindt akong nilaqgay dun

yung yellow wire na pinutol ko lalagyan ko ng swtch?? as in icoconnect ko p din yung yellow wire sa rctifier kaso may switch na sa pagitan????

 

[john_carlo]

iooff mo yun switch pag naka HID ka para past charge naka on naman pag off HID mas maganda relay n ilagay mo para nakasabay na ang on off sa mismong switch ng HId mo. pag switch at makalimutan na i on at off yun switch masisira battery mo maoovercharge

 

[Noah501]

Pwede patutor dito? English nalang ako.
May I know the steps how to battery operate my r6 tail light?
I thought HID/LED will wear out if not on direct current, but if connected the battery will easily get low/drained?
"i guess he will cut the yellow wire and connect it to the battery and it will make a fast charging rectifier but the consequence of these is a shorter life span of the battery.."
- How are we going to avoid overcharging?

"Now the only work of my magneto and rectifier is to charge the battery and lit up my headlight, and the rest is directed to the battery. No fast charging circuit, no add-ons to my electrical/electronic components and specially "no low batt". hehehe,, im planning to replace my bulb lights on my meter and signal light bulbs to LED. Cause LEDz are low power consumption. bow. ronnelmarc is the 1 who give me this tips. hehehe"
-How exactly are we going to do this?

 

[john_carlo]

if you will cut the yellow wire yo must put dummy load like an HID to the battery in order to not to overchage the battery like i said in my sniper if only turn on my hid thats the time that the yellow wire will cut using some relay ang if i off my HID the yellw wire in in stock mode... im using my stock battery for more than 3 yrs now.. my electrical system compose of rextor CDI, hid headlight, led parklight, stock signal light bulb and brakelight, koso digital speedometer

why alter the wiring in the magneto and put the light coil in charging when there is the yellow wire in the rectifier that if you cut will boost your charging 12 to 17 volts. and in my opinion putting the light coil of the magneto/stator in charging system will not suffitient charge the battery. why? because the rectifier will regulate the chaging in 12 to 14 volts ang the so what the point of altering the stator wiring...

in making the t135 light in battery mode just find the yellow wire in the main light switch and connect it/tap it to the ignition switch

make sure in cutting yellow wire all your light system must be battery operated or else boom

 

[Noah501]

"in making the t135 light in battery mode just find the yellow wire in the main light switch and connect it/tap it to the ignition switch"
- So all I have to do is cut the yellow wire and connect it to the ignition switch (red color?). Sir Sidro also told me about it.
"make sure in cutting yellow wire all your light system must be battery operated or else boom"
-How exactly do I make sure that my all my lights will be battery operated?By connecting the yellow wire to the ignition switch right?
"like i said in my sniper if only turn on my hid thats the time that the yellow wire will cut using some relay ang if i off my HID the yellw wire in in stock mode"
-I think I really need to make mine like yours.

Actually I had already changed some electrical device of my bike:
R6 tail light - nothing was changed on the wirings on this one. (Which I am afraid the LED might get worn out easily. I need to fix this asap. T__T)
Car Horn - Installed by a crew from Moto Options. They kind of changed a lot of wirings here and I still have to look exactly about it's wirings, relay, etc. (I was not able to ask if
did they directed it on the battery, it would have saved all my worries but I'm not sure.) Does this kind of horn get directed to the battery as a standard installation?
Electric Seat opener - I'm kind of sure this one was directed on the battery. (I'll just have to confirm it.)
Gonna go tomorrow to a bike shop to install a devil eye for my bike. (Wonder if does it even stack cuz my bulb slowly burned my headlight bulb lens how much more the devil eye)

Question:
Will my worries be gone if I tap the yellow wire to the ignition switch?
Must I buy an HID light to somewhat discharge the battery? (But I don't use headlight even at night cuz I'm in a city and I light just the park light turning on.)
Is HID necessary before turning the lights into direc current?

I think I'm gonna need an expert to check my bike.

 

[john_carlo]

i dont experience getting lowbatt using stock brakelight park light ang signal light even it is directed to the battery..

about the horn i guest if it is using the bosch 5 pin relay the number 30 is directly connected to the battery..

the HID is not necesary in directing the lighting system to the battery..

HID is use if you cut the yellow wire as i said to use as a dummy in order the battery will not suffer in overcharge..

i think the devil eyes is not hot as the stock bulb

"in making the t135 light in battery mode just find the yellow wire in the main light switch and connect it/tap it to the ignition switch"
- So all I have to do is cut the yellow wire and connect it to the ignition switch (red color?). Sir Sidro also told me about it.
"make sure in cutting yellow wire all your light system must be battery operated or else boom"
-How exactly do I make sure that my all my lights will be battery operated?By connecting the yellow wire to the ignition switch right?
"like i said in my sniper if only turn on my hid thats the time that the yellow wire will cut using some relay ang if i off my HID the yellw wire in in stock mode"
-I think I really need to make mine like yours.

Actually I had already changed some electrical device of my bike:
R6 tail light - nothing was changed on the wirings on this one. (Which I am afraid the LED might get worn out easily. I need to fix this asap. T__T)
Car Horn - Installed by a crew from Moto Options. They kind of changed a lot of wirings here and I still have to look exactly about it's wirings, relay, etc. (I was not able to ask if
did they directed it on the battery, it would have saved all my worries but I'm not sure.) Does this kind of horn get directed to the battery as a standard installation?
Electric Seat opener - I'm kind of sure this one was directed on the battery. (I'll just have to confirm it.)
Gonna go tomorrow to a bike shop to install a devil eye for my bike. (Wonder if does it even stack cuz my bulb slowly burned my headlight bulb lens how much more the devil eye)

Question:
Will my worries be gone if I tap the yellow wire to the ignition switch?
Must I buy an HID light to somewhat discharge the battery? (But I don't use headlight even at night cuz I'm in a city and I light just the park light turning on.)
Is HID necessary before turning the lights into direc current?

I think I'm gonna need an expert to check my bike.

 

[yakuini22]

hello guys, kindly draw a diagram on how to set up the HID w/o battery low bat, thank you..