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xclickclickx

Veteran
Hey People,
Just brought a Head off "HKholic",
well i brought that i brought a few other bits and pieces aswell:;)
*CMS valves
*CMS camshaft
*and APPI valve springs.
I was looking for some UMA titanium valve spring retainers but can't find any :(

So anyway heres a brief discription of how i done it "HKholic" recomended i did it this way as Vietnam doesn't have any proper lapping tools available.

* first of i got some Ethanol/Pure alcohol (carb cleaner would be better) and rubbed it all down trying to get it as clean as possible and remove all that sot in the exhaust port.

*after it was clean i gave the exhaust port a we sand back ( its already ported)

*then I applied my Course Grind paste to both the valve pocket and the valve.

*after applying it use some oil (i used sewing oil) to insert the valve into the valve bush you really DONT want the valve stem to have any Grind paste on the valve stem when inserting it into the bush it will just cause a lot of wear.

*ounce i got the valve in i then stuck a carburetor drain pipe on the end of the stem (working to Vietnam's environment) and began rotating the valve, you will hear that grinding sound and ounce it get very quiet push it out and add a little more grind paste.

*ounce i did that its just a matter of repeating the previous step just with a FINE grind paste this time.

*After your've finished, all your valve pocket shall have a very nice grey ring of where the valve has been making friction with the pockets.

* clean everything and apply oil to items for start up and then to ensure the valves are all good just full the port up with petrol well the valves are in and make sure that the petrol isn't escaping from the valve pockets.

* Final note, put the tools away have a shower then go to sleep haha:D


Also as you can see Coffee,Tea's and Snacks do help !;)

and sorry about some of the photo's were bad quality i was using my GF's I-Phone if i ever got a smart phone id go for the samsung Galaxy way better......but i prefer spending my money on Motorbikes .


P.S.
If you want a free Valve Lapping job send me a proper Valve Lapper suction tool (good quality onephoto (1).JPGphoto (3).JPGphoto (4).JPGphoto.JPGphoto (5).JPG )!! :thumbsup:
 

xclickclickx

Veteran
Thanks Guys , its just a time consuming job with a twist of basic mechanical knowledge id really hate to see what would happened to a valve after getting the grind paste in one of the valve bushes i think it would last about 5hrs.

also if you look at the photos check out the out galleries they have jagged edges also they seem like they could end up going through your oil system, i looked at the 2 other heads and they also had that, just contemplating on wether or not to give them a light touch up with a dremel even where it looks smooth it's actually got a jagged edge...
 

Djorst

New Member
Hi fellow! I just recognize when I see this picture. Give me your YM! or just add mine: nero_devilmaycry_1912
I think we've many things to talk. :))

 

schmuck

Super Veteran
bro, i noticed you are using CMS cams and CMS valve?
why didnt you use CMS valve spring? why APPI?...
whats the difference between the 2 vsprings?

TY and ride safe!
 

xclickclickx

Veteran
bro, i noticed you are using CMS cams and CMS valve?
why didnt you use CMS valve spring? why APPI?...
whats the difference between the 2 vsprings?

TY and ride safe!
CMS vlave springs have a very thick spring diameter to thick apparently, im pretty sure CMS springs were 3.2mm and APPI where 2.8mm something like that i forgot but CMS went a bit to thick, plus i will change Camshafts every now and again so APPI should be ok to mix around (even though really when you change camshafts you should change valve springs for the springs with the wright compression and spring back but im not going to go super technical on my Yamaha exciter when i have other bikes aswell ) :D
 

Djorst

New Member
CMS vlave springs have a very thick spring diameter to thick apparently, im pretty sure CMS springs were 3.2mm and APPI where 2.8mm something like that i forgot but CMS went a bit to thick, plus i will change Camshafts every now and again so APPI should be ok to mix around (even though really when you change camshafts you should change valve springs for the springs with the wright compression and spring back but im not going to go super technical on my Yamaha exciter when i have other bikes aswell ) :D
Here U are, Ethan. I'm still waiting for your Email.
APPI springs can match my configuration, right? If it'll damage my camshaft like in HKholic's 2pic?
 

xclickclickx

Veteran
Here U are, Ethan. I'm still waiting for your Email.
APPI springs can match my configuration, right? If it'll damage my camshaft like in HKholic's 2pic?
Message sent...HKholic is trying a New Faito Turbo Cam he thinks it may have been manufactured not so well...if thats not the case it may be the springs, but i couldn't imagine APPI being able to do that i could imagine CMS valve springs being able to do that though!
 

Djorst

New Member
Message sent...HKholic is trying a New Faito Turbo Cam he thinks it may have been manufactured not so well...if thats not the case it may be the springs, but i couldn't imagine APPI being able to do that i could imagine CMS valve springs being able to do that though!
Ukm, I do think so. I'm wondering Faito cam and CNC turning camshaft cuz if I buy a Faito cam, the mechanic will not adjust it for me, he only adjust his CNC turning cam. How hard the adjustment can be?
 

schmuck

Super Veteran
CMS vlave springs have a very thick spring diameter to thick apparently, im pretty sure CMS springs were 3.2mm and APPI where 2.8mm something like that i forgot but CMS went a bit to thick, plus i will change Camshafts every now and again so APPI should be ok to mix around (even though really when you change camshafts you should change valve springs for the springs with the wright compression and spring back but im not going to go super technical on my Yamaha exciter when i have other bikes aswell ) :D
between the two valve spring, which is better?
CMS or APPI? and how about its max RPM?
 

xclickclickx

Veteran
APPI work really well, im not sure how many RPM they do ill tell you one day when i have an RPM gauge i dont even know what they are actually rated to either..I've never used CMS springs but because they are a lot harder they may ruin Camshafts after so i assume the CMS camshaft is made to suit them but other cams seem to be a bit softer and wont be able to handle the CMS springs,
also i would try "TK" valve springs
 

Djorst

New Member
APPI work really well, im not sure how many RPM they do ill tell you one day when i have an RPM gauge i dont even know what they are actually rated to either..I've never used CMS springs but because they are a lot harder they may ruin Camshafts after so i assume the CMS camshaft is made to suit them but other cams seem to be a bit softer and wont be able to handle the CMS springs,
also i would try "TK" valve springs
TK is too expensive and rare, so I think APPI is good for me.^^!
 
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