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Please Help, I am sooo sad :(

charge

Veteran
135lcSS:
wah dude, i don't have enough stamina to carry exhaust pipe from KL all the way to penang.. it's heavy man. :p

e3_1990:
Lemme try out first, maybe after i mod, go ipoh find u a while on the way back to Penang, haha.

tsunami:
dude, you selling mod parts rite? can PM me wat u r selling? CDI? camshaft? racing coil? I oso wanna mod a bit from stock, at best engine keep stock. ;)
 

juandelacruz

New Member
charge:
did you solve already the problem why the rpm drops at 4th gear and stays at around 7000rpm?

did you try isoloting the problem by changing the cdi and removing tps?

I ask cause somehow I felt it too on my H/C. it felt like the cdi is controlling the rpm specially at full throttle.
 

charge

Veteran
juandelacruz:
I am still in the process of finding a suitable CDI for my usage. Probably BRT smarclick dual band or Rextor Adjustable. I didn't remove TPS, but playing around with it by varying the throttle position quickly around 75% - 100% throttle region.( as suggested by one of the cool guys here). Able to hit 140kph instead of 120kph previously ;)
 

SATRIA_4G92P

New Member
THE HONG LEONG PEOPLE ARE FULL OF BS MAN I AGREE WITH DEHANZ OPINION COZ I AM A MECH ALSO I READ ALL OF HIS OPINION AND ITS BEEN DONE AND PROVEN DUDE
 

charge

Veteran
yeah, they are just lazy fella..
what is your opinion satria_4g92P? what have u done to counter these stupid BS? thanks
 

SATRIA_4G92P

New Member
TRY DEHANZ OPINION ON THIS
charge said:
Today I went to Hong Leong Yamaha to check why my beloved T135 doesnt have enough horsepower after 7000rpm. Below is the dialogue

Me: Why my bike felt sluggish right after certain RPM when revving high?

Tech: can you please describe in more detail?

Me: it cuts off about 7000rpm and i dun see this happen in 1st generation bike.

Tech: ohh, 2nd generation is like this. We do this so that top speed stays below 140kph.

Me: Can you help me to reset?

Tech: No, it is impossible.

Me: Why? How about changing to racing CDI or re-calibrating TPS?

Tech: No. It is because of wiring problem.

Me: Wiring? what wiring?

Tech: The wiring system of the whole 2nd generation T135 is different from 1st generation.

Me: (WTF!!) How about rewiring them according to 1st generation?

Tech: Cannot also. You don't have strong current.

Me: Then? Change battery? Change the magnetic coil?

Tech: No, it doesnt help.

Me: (i am doubting now). How about changing a whole new engine block, carburetor and etc?

Tech: Still doesn't help. This is 2nd generation characteristic.

Me: (damn disappointed ady). thanks.


Sigh... anybody knows how wiring system can retard the high RPM power?

Hope I can get help from you guys, thanksss.
 

juandelacruz

New Member
I read a thread some weeks ago that tps intervened in the ignition timing thru the stock cdi thus limiting the performance of the bike to attain a more fuel efficient system (or long life engine i guess!) rather than unleashing the full potential of our engine. i personally think that is why people who use aftermarket cdi and carbs never experienced the sluggishness.

as for the pump accelerator (squirt behavior), is this designed to give us more power or again, for economic reason?

there are more technology incorporated in our T135, but the way I look at it, it controls the power rather than giving more..
 

charge

Veteran
yes yuandelacruz, i agree with you. T135 engine is a masterpiece. It is even used for the upcoming R15 which rumoured to pump 22BHP --> 2x of ours!

I dunno about the engine design world, but the computer engineering world i am working in always have 1 rule - we have a very good base design and then enhance it over years. Outsiders will see the company launching new products, but in fact the company is just enhancing the existing design with fine tunings.

Hopefully our engine has this potential for fine tunings. ;)
 

juandelacruz

New Member
I think engineers already hit the peak of 4-stroke engine design in terms of performance, and instead of designing an engine for power, the easiest way to earn $$$$$$, is to contol the power itself and release a product with horsepower incrementally implemented.IMHO

btw have you tried tips #3 by Haen in the other thread?

I tried it last night and on my way to work this morning i felt more response and it does make sense..tnx Haen
 

charge

Veteran
yea, you have the point too. Perhaps that's Yamaha plan. I haven't tried tips#3, can't find that air-filter yet. :(


135lcSS: i might try other mods in KL as well if there is any.
 

juandelacruz

New Member
here in our place, the small air-filter were sold at any car-auto accessories store..i have a hard time finding one on a motorcycle parts and accessories shop.
 

y4stroker

Super Veteran
Hey, peace. Can anyone from philippines tell us from malaysia how their speedo can work accurately n why our speedo sucks? Curious...
And can we mod our stock speedo so that it will show us the real value?????
If can, how?
Thx!
 

traxxas-modifier

Super LOLO
Staff member
juandelacruz said:
I read a thread some weeks ago that tps intervened in the ignition timing thru the stock cdi thus limiting the performance of the bike to attain a more fuel efficient system (or long life engine i guess!) rather than unleashing the full potential of our engine. i personally think that is why people who use aftermarket cdi and carbs never experienced the sluggishness.

as for the pump accelerator (squirt behavior), is this designed to give us more power or again, for economic reason?

there are more technology incorporated in our T135, but the way I look at it, it controls the power rather than giving more..
hi bro

for me installing tps is better than having no tps at all.
the catch is you need to set your tps correctly to take advantage of it.
why tps is better?
newest high performance bikes like bigbikes and motocross have TPS
because it provides the best ignition timing to provide more power.
consider it its the eye of the cdi to see whats happening outside.

users who upgrade to bigcarb gives more power because its a big carb.
if you install TPS with the big carb, then thats much better power :)

stock cdi has limit to 9200rpm only, unlike aftermarket cdi it doesnt have limit (your engine will now be your limit)

for the accelerator pump, if you can get a bigcarb with accelerator pump
i advise you to get it. Pumper carb versus without pump, it really makes
a difference believe me...

on carb without pump: quick snapping of throttle from idle will hesitate (its like your engine is dying)

on carb with accel pump: quick snapping of throttle from idle is OK

i will be modding my carb to have a accel pump using the stock carb parts
 

traxxas-modifier

Super LOLO
Staff member
y4stroker said:
Hey, peace. Can anyone from philippines tell us from malaysia how their speedo can work accurately n why our speedo sucks? Curious...
And can we mod our stock speedo so that it will show us the real value?????
If can, how?
Thx!
maybe because malaysian motorbike culture is on that level
where motorbike speedo reaches 150kph ...

indonesian, thailand, philippines specs usually on the 9-15% advance speedo on the real speed.

i have another secondhand philippines speedometer assembly lying around at the garage
that i dont use anymore,
9% difference advance on true speed using the stock tire (70/90x17).
increasing your front tire size (80/90 or 90/80) will make it more accurate :)

if you want to swap my phils speedo with your malaysian speedo assembly
that will be fine..

i want to check what differs
on the malaysian speedo and indon/phils speedo.
 

neo

Veteran
just a question bro traxx will it be more accurate if we can install a speedo sense like on the raider 150?
 

kirana

Super Veteran
1; Open your speedo meter
2; remove the speedo cable
3;put back the meter needle
4; turn the needle to 140kmh and hold
5;turn the bottom rotor(??) about 20kmh, and relase the needle.
then put it back together.
air filrter same as the K&N but from JFC company
i open n remove all the box,so i can put more into my bag.


just P&P no mod to be done:

 

kirana

Super Veteran
i only have 1 pc with me now, but i u realy want this Air filter i will post it to u.
total USD32 (snail post not express) register parcel.
 
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