Steering Problem

[akosichilleta]

Guys,

Sorry I didn't update this thread due to my work. At last I can have my bike checked and repair my steering problem.

I think I know the problem. Because a few weeks ago, I hop on my bike while it is on my garage with my foot on the floor. I tried to steer may handle and I felt that there is a delay/play (A little bit). I think I need to tighten my upper and lower nut.. I'll bring my bike in a 3s shop near our place this coming holiday and I will also try to change my front wheel bearings. I hope it would resolve my problem.. I will give update on the result.

Additional question guys, have you ever heard a "knock" on your front fork if you suddenly pass by a big hump or deep crater on the road?

replace ur front fork spring and add fork oil to make it stiffer.it depends on your preference tho

 

[bhek_21]

To all:

Guys I have an update on my bike..

My steering problem was quite corrected now.. I've changed the fork oil, front wheel bearings and slightly tighten my steering nut (Upper and Lower).. But there is an instance that I felt the wiggling at no hand.. Maybe I'll check my current tire pressure.. But all in all, I'm satisfied with my steering as of now..
Thank you guys for the inputs! It really helps me a lot!

 

[SGriderVN]

Guys,

Sorry I didn't update this thread due to my work. At last I can have my bike checked and repair my steering problem.

I think I know the problem. Because a few weeks ago, I hop on my bike while it is on my garage with my foot on the floor. I tried to steer may handle and I felt that there is a delay/play (A little bit). I think I need to tighten my upper and lower nut.. I'll bring my bike in a 3s shop near our place this coming holiday and I will also try to change my front wheel bearings. I hope it would resolve my problem.. I will give update on the result.

Additional question guys, have you ever heard a "knock" on your front fork if you suddenly pass by a big hump or deep crater on the road?

About the sound "knock" you heard: in Vietnam, the quality of roads is low, so we usualy met this problem. I think oil fork is pressed suddently, so it make this sound 'knock". I ignore this problem. The problem is serious if you hear this sound when you pop brake lever, and push handlebar hard. Because the bearing race is loosen.
ps: In Vietnam, a work shop fixed this problem (sound "knock" when pass a deep hole). They edit the movement of oil fork when it work (I only know they edit the inner tube), and add oil fork, replace the original bearing by the discrete ball bearing, more ball if compare with original bearing.
I'll try to add picture if I can.

 

[bhek_21]

Guys I've found another problem on my bike but it's very minimal but annoying.. My steering damper #1 and #2 has a play..maybe 0.05mm~0.75mm (Approximate).. I've tried to tighten it, but the bolt is already at its maximum tightness/torque.. I think I need to replace all of it.. It's a 3 pair of dampers on our steering..
Note: Steering damper of Classic Sniper and Sniper MX are the same.. They have same part number.. Based on my parts catalogue..

 

[rich_havens]

To all:

Guys I have an update on my bike..

My steering problem was quite corrected now.. I've changed the fork oil, front wheel bearings and slightly tighten my steering nut (Upper and Lower).. But there is an instance that I felt the wiggling at no hand.. Maybe I'll check my current tire pressure.. But all in all, I'm satisfied with my steering as of now..
Thank you guys for the inputs! It really helps me a lot!

question...

are you using ur bike with givi box?

if so... givi boxes has an effect on steering...

the wiggle is cause by the givi box...

been using a givi box with my sniper before during our rides and i feel that wigled on free hand driving but if i remove the givi box its ok... no wiggle at all

 

[bhek_21]

question...

are you using ur bike with givi box?

if so... givi boxes has an effect on steering...

the wiggle is cause by the givi box...

been using a givi box with my sniper before during our rides and i feel that wigled on free hand driving but if i remove the givi box its ok... no wiggle at all

Thanks for the input..
After I've repacked my front fork oil, changed my front wheel bearings and tighten the upper/lower nut, the wiggle is gone @ no givi box installed..
I tried to install my givi box, it gives a little wiggle as you said but not like before..
But what I've noticed recently is that my 2 out of 3 pairs (The left and right) of my steering rubber dumper has a play.. I think it contributes to the wiggling feeling..
I've tighten it already at the fullest but it still has a play..
I'll try to replace it and see what will happen..
Steering rumber damper of Sniper Classic and Sniper MX are the same.. Same part number..

 

[bhek_21]

Guys I have an update on my steering concern..

Fork oil - Replaced
No Oil Leak
Inner tube doesn't have a any dent or misalignment
Front wheel bearing replaced
Steering bearing checked, re-greased and re-tighten
Installed RB Fork stabilizer

All my front suspension is okay after all but still I felt the flat feeling.. so last night, I've checked again the steering and found out that the play of the rubber damper became worst than before. My remedy is to put a thin rubber (0.1mm from unused old tire interior) inside it to make it tighter. So far, after I've installed it, the wiggling feeling is not noticeable anymore. But I'll still try to replace my fork spring or put a set of bolt & nut at the top of the fork spring to make the spring stiffer..

Just my share, if you have problem with your steering, check also the rubber damper in the handle bar if it has a play. I'll post picture later.

Guys I'm planning to disregard the damper and weld directly the handle bar to the handle bracket with consideration of the space provided by the damper.. Do you think it would be OK?

 

[bhek_21]

 

[guitarizta]

after checking my mc, it has a little bit of play even the bolt is at the full tightness. it's hardly noticeable though when driving, or maybe i'm just used to it. maybe u should replace them if they really too much play in them.

 

[bhek_21]

after checking my mc, it has a little bit of play even the bolt is at the full tightness. it's hardly noticeable though when driving, or maybe i'm just used to it. maybe u should replace them if they really too much play in them.

Yes, that's what I'm going to do.. After replacing it with a new one, I'm planning to custom made that rubber damper.. same dimension but different material, I will use rubber that came from the tires of heavy trucks.. My friend also used this kind of rubber damper on the rear sprocket..

 

[xXcastXx]

i have this prob to

 

[xXcastXx]

i have the same problem noticed that my T-post is not align properly... "banking" is there a posibilities to align this on machine shops?i already checked my front shocks... still my "kabig" unstable
headache

 

[bhek_21]

Guys, as of now, I'm sure that my steering is in top condition. Repacked Steering Bearing by re-greasing, checked the race of steering bearing and it is in good condition, my inner tubes are not misaligned, good spring play, replace fork oil with right oil level, installed front fork stabilizer to ensure that my front fork will have a same play and re-tightened the steering nuts.. You know what, I steel have the wobble problem.. What I'm doubting now is my rear.. I think the problem is there.. Someone already shared to me (R150 in his case) that this wobble and flat tire feeling is due to his REAR SUSPENSION and that's what I'm doubting right now.. I will replace it with a new one, maybe aftermarket will do like racing boy.. Does the rear shock of sniper classic and sniper mx have the same height? I will also check my swing arm bushings..

 

[bhek_21]

i have the same problem noticed that my T-post is not align properly... "banking" is there a posibilities to align this on machine shops?i already checked my front shocks... still my "kabig" unstable
headache

Are you sure that your T-post is not aligned? Did you encountered an accident? which part is not aligned?

 

[xXcastXx]

Are you sure that your T-post is not aligned? Did you encountered an accident? which part is not aligned?

yup i encountered an accident... about year ago... still solving my problem on my steering assy i still dont know what is the coz of it "KABIG" i already checked it all... replaced oil on my fork... removed and checked the bearing, greasing the bearings ... after that... still there is slight "KABIG"

 

[bhek_21]

yup i encountered an accident... about year ago... still solving my problem on my steering assy i still dont know what is the coz of it "KABIG" i already checked it all... replaced oil on my fork... removed and checked the bearing, greasing the bearings ... after that... still there is slight "KABIG"

Did you check your front wheel? How about your rear shock, someone told me that if it is already bad, it makes your bike wobble.. as of now, that is my target, replacing my stock shocks.. Tomorrow, I'll give time to check myself the rear shocks.. also the swing arm bushings..

 

[xXcastXx]

done checking all the posible problem... already solve some of it...

 

[bhek_21]

what are the possible problems you saw upon your inspection?

 

[AJM]

SIR HOW TO CHECK THE BUSHING OF MY REAR WHEEL COZ I CAN ALSO FEEL A SLIGHT "KABIG" WHEN I AM BRAKING

 

[bhek_21]

SIR HOW TO CHECK THE BUSHING OF MY REAR WHEEL COZ I CAN ALSO FEEL A SLIGHT "KABIG" WHEN I AM BRAKING

Rear wheel or swing arm? If you're pertaining to swing arm, as per the manual, you must center stand it first then remove you rear wheel, then hold your swing arm and move it horizontal or vertical.. you can see if there is a play.. you can also check your bushing by removing the swing arm axle.. then you can check if your bushings are damaged/ already needs to be replaced..