lc-motospeed
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haha, pardon me but i oso have no idea wats tat... fancy fancy names =P
wat else r there 2 modify?
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lc-motospeed
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hmm, blur case blur case
goff_d_p
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bro, it won't matter how big of a stator you use. it's not the stator that runs your bike. all the stator dose is charge your battery and run your lights when engine is on. thats it. all the other electronic parts like the (cdi) use battery power. if you want to have the power done like that, then yes you can upgrade your stator. but you also have to upgrade your rectifier, and all your electrical wiring on your bike, plus your battery will also have to be upgraded to a higher amp.
I know a company that will upgrade your stock stator (magneto) for $160 that Provides over 90 watts of DC power at idle. which would mean you would have to eather get another new stock stator, or take yours out. in which case you wouldn't be able to ride you bike.
and for a rectifier that will work with this increase of power is $80.00, 150 watt full wave regulator/rectifier for DC electrical systems. Wire connectors for use with all machines.
I can also get the battery's i think, but they will not be cheap and i'm not sure if they have the same size for our bikes
of course shipping is not included, and all parts are being imported from another country, so don't expect shipping to be cheap, and don't ask for a discount. because i can't get one for you, or me.
I also want to say, that with this upgrade, you can use HID with no problems, thats what these systems were designed for.
I know a company that will upgrade your stock stator (magneto) for $160 that Provides over 90 watts of DC power at idle. which would mean you would have to eather get another new stock stator, or take yours out. in which case you wouldn't be able to ride you bike.
and for a rectifier that will work with this increase of power is $80.00, 150 watt full wave regulator/rectifier for DC electrical systems. Wire connectors for use with all machines.
I can also get the battery's i think, but they will not be cheap and i'm not sure if they have the same size for our bikes
of course shipping is not included, and all parts are being imported from another country, so don't expect shipping to be cheap, and don't ask for a discount. because i can't get one for you, or me.
I also want to say, that with this upgrade, you can use HID with no problems, thats what these systems were designed for.
thats the part i mean but when u use them (from experience) u dont have light and its not possible to chanrge the batterygoff_d_p said:bro, it won't matter how big of a stator you use. it's not the stator that runs your bike. all the stator dose is charge your battery and run your lights when engine is on. thats it. all the other electronic parts like the (cdi) use battery power. if you want to have the power done like that, then yes you can upgrade your stator. but you also have to upgrade your rectifier, and all your electrical wiring on your bike, plus your battery will also have to be upgraded to a higher amp.
I know a company that will upgrade your stock stator (magneto) for $160 that Provides over 90 watts of DC power at idle. which would mean you would have to eather get another new stock stator, or take yours out. in which case you wouldn't be able to ride you bike.
and for a rectifier that will work with this increase of power is $80.00, 150 watt full wave regulator/rectifier for DC electrical systems. Wire connectors for use with all machines.
I can also get the battery's i think, but they will not be cheap and i'm not sure if they have the same size for our bikes
of course shipping is not included, and all parts are being imported from another country, so don't expect shipping to be cheap, and don't ask for a discount. because i can't get one for you, or me.
I also want to say, that with this upgrade, you can use HID with no problems, thats what these systems were designed for.
goff_d_p
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X Project said:
Ok, Asia and the US are two different country's, in the States this item is called a stator. and according to my uncles Yamaha shop here in PI. it's called a Magneto. By definition "Simply put, a magneto makes a spark with the least engine drag ; it‘s direct drive from magnetism to high voltage, instead of the inefficient 4 energy conversions in a battery-coil system. And unlike a coil, magneto spark increases as RPMs increase. No wires connecting components means greater reliability and simplicity. Magnetos run independently (no connection to your battery or charging system needed). Simple, powerful, clean and reliable."
Now upon my research, i found this second photo of a "Magneto" so whats the difference?
The only difference i see is the flywheel? So when you say "stator and magneto are two different things..." you better do your research first.
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lc-motospeed
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wow, goff, u really do lots of research on tis stator magneto thingy aih? haha... learning more stuffs now =P
Haha. LOL. There's some confusion here. Ha. Lemme clarify things up. Both side's correct.
The original magneto system, is a very 'antique' system. Rely solely on a rotating magnet + stator combination to time and generate the spark required to fire the cylinder. Some bikes/ lawn mowers/ gas planes/ american muscle dragsters still use them. For the simplicity and dependability.
The quote which Goff posted, is from Morris. A magneto maker. I honestly don't buy their argument. While its simple, its no match for the modern day systems.
These days they run a system that had its roots derived from the original magneto system. But do not be confused with the original magneto systems. While modern igntion systems still use a rotating flywheel/ magnet, but (in the case of the T135), it merely triggers the pick-up coil, and to provide charging for the batt (and of course, to provide a flywheel effect). The actual sparking duties is done by a BATTERY POWERED CDI which saturates the plug coil- unlike the original magneto system that doesn't need a battery.
The term 'Magneto' has since became a very loose term used to discribe the rotor/ stator system in modern day ignition.
The magneto Haen meant, is in fact, the rotor. Which houses the magnets.
The right photo Goff posted, is a pix of a STATOR and ROTOR. Note: the rectangular black thing on the right photo is the pick-up. The left pix is only the stator. A stator, together with the magnet on the rotor provides the charging.
Cheers.
The original magneto system, is a very 'antique' system. Rely solely on a rotating magnet + stator combination to time and generate the spark required to fire the cylinder. Some bikes/ lawn mowers/ gas planes/ american muscle dragsters still use them. For the simplicity and dependability.
The quote which Goff posted, is from Morris. A magneto maker. I honestly don't buy their argument. While its simple, its no match for the modern day systems.
These days they run a system that had its roots derived from the original magneto system. But do not be confused with the original magneto systems. While modern igntion systems still use a rotating flywheel/ magnet, but (in the case of the T135), it merely triggers the pick-up coil, and to provide charging for the batt (and of course, to provide a flywheel effect). The actual sparking duties is done by a BATTERY POWERED CDI which saturates the plug coil- unlike the original magneto system that doesn't need a battery.
The term 'Magneto' has since became a very loose term used to discribe the rotor/ stator system in modern day ignition.
The magneto Haen meant, is in fact, the rotor. Which houses the magnets.
The right photo Goff posted, is a pix of a STATOR and ROTOR. Note: the rectangular black thing on the right photo is the pick-up. The left pix is only the stator. A stator, together with the magnet on the rotor provides the charging.
Cheers.
Haha. Been there mate. No point in my very honest 2 cents worth. Sounds fiercer though. Ha. The hassle of charging the batt everyday is very tiring. Benefit is engine response better.X Project said:
As for lightening...... If you wanna lighten, might as well simply remove the flywheel (the one underneath the primary gear). That will remove ALOT of inertia, weight..... and top speed. ha.
Cheers.
X Project
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Which is which?
Ok, Asia and the US are two different country's, in the States this item is called a stator. and according to my uncles Yamaha shop here in PI. it's called a Magneto. By definition "Simply put, a magneto makes a spark with the least engine drag ; it‘s direct drive from magnetism to high voltage, instead of the inefficient 4 energy conversions in a battery-coil system. And unlike a coil, magneto spark increases as RPMs increase. No wires connecting components means greater reliability and simplicity. Magnetos run independently (no connection to your battery or charging system needed). Simple, powerful, clean and reliable."
Now upon my research, i found this second photo of a "Magneto" so whats the difference?
The only difference i see is the flywheel? So when you say "stator and magneto are two different things..." you better do your research first.[/quote:34r7w3ce]
Goff, it's really simple... The magneto is the steel cylindrical thing that holds the magnet that is connected to the shaft of the crank... The stator is the one that is located on the other side of the crankcase that has the coils and wires around them aight? The pulser is the one that receives the charge from the magnet and the electrical charges from the stator to provide power charges to lights, batt, rectifier etc... Motorcycle engine is a universal language to men and there should'nt be any confusion as to what are therms regardless of your nationality bro... The picture you posted above, I ,mean the one that is labeled "magneto" has both the magneto and stator on it... The magneto is the cylindrical steel and the stator is the one beside it okay? I'm referring to the picture on the right (CG125D-11) not the one on the left...
goff_d_p said:
Ok, Asia and the US are two different country's, in the States this item is called a stator. and according to my uncles Yamaha shop here in PI. it's called a Magneto. By definition "Simply put, a magneto makes a spark with the least engine drag ; it‘s direct drive from magnetism to high voltage, instead of the inefficient 4 energy conversions in a battery-coil system. And unlike a coil, magneto spark increases as RPMs increase. No wires connecting components means greater reliability and simplicity. Magnetos run independently (no connection to your battery or charging system needed). Simple, powerful, clean and reliable."
Now upon my research, i found this second photo of a "Magneto" so whats the difference?
The only difference i see is the flywheel? So when you say "stator and magneto are two different things..." you better do your research first.[/quote:34r7w3ce]
Goff, it's really simple... The magneto is the steel cylindrical thing that holds the magnet that is connected to the shaft of the crank... The stator is the one that is located on the other side of the crankcase that has the coils and wires around them aight? The pulser is the one that receives the charge from the magnet and the electrical charges from the stator to provide power charges to lights, batt, rectifier etc... Motorcycle engine is a universal language to men and there should'nt be any confusion as to what are therms regardless of your nationality bro... The picture you posted above, I ,mean the one that is labeled "magneto" has both the magneto and stator on it... The magneto is the cylindrical steel and the stator is the one beside it okay? I'm referring to the picture on the right (CG125D-11) not the one on the left...
X Project
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Stator and magneto are two different things!!! Don't lecture me on something you lack knowledge bro... Again the magneto is the steel cylindrical flywheel and the stator is another component... Just because you saw a picture labeled "magneto" that has the magneto and stator on it, it does'nt mean that the stator is also the magneto... You do your research and stop arguing about it... You cannot go to a shop and order magneto when in fact the one you need is the stator... Just like the pulley system on a CVT, lots of people are confuse about the drive face, back plate and the fly ball because when someone says, "change your pulley" the person actually thinks that the whole assembly needs to be changed... That's just an example, hope you got I mean man... Again you do your research and when you're done doin' it call me and tell me Im wrong... 0922-895-0069...
X Project
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lc-motospeed
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u r not being an ass at all man... its great info, haha... learning neva come 2 an end dude
goff_d_p
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Ok, X, the Magneto is a separate part from the Stator. but its best if your going to change one, you need to change the other. I know when i had my dirt bike i had to replace the Magneto, and that was the whole set, including stator. that was they way it was defined to me from the repair shop that did the work. i was just pointing out the pieces for those who don't know the parts.
X Project
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