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Koso Digital Speedometer

sniper31

Super Veteran
Bro, better use schematic diagram. How about the interested buyer who have n0 internet? Or those who is using a cellphone online. Tnx! Only a suggesti0n.
 

haen

Super Veteran
installation is pretty straightforward for this meter since the details are well explained on the manual.. every cable is labeled..
but one thing still bugging me..
the RPM wire cable supposed to be connected / jumpered to the white pulser cable on the CDI.. but it gives inaccurate rpm reading.. it doesnt read anything under 3000 rpm..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4tAXlAjdY

one of the Malaysian user said connect it to the ORANGE cable.. which gives quite accurate reading.. although seems it still need rpm signal filtering..

also about tyre calibration.. i found for 70/90 tyre size the 100% setting is quite accurate contrary what was written on the manual.. (looks like it was a copy paste from a matic manual since tire size is about 14" rim)

doing some manual calculation :

70/90 tire size means = tyre height = 70 * 90% = 6,3 cm
add to 17 inch diameter = 17 x 2,54 cm = 43,18 cm
plus tyre height = 2 x 6,3 cm = 12,6 cm so total diameter of the tire is 43,18 + 12,6 = 55,78..
so.. total tyre circumference is = 3,14 x 55,78 = 175,1492 --> 100% value on the speedo

for 80/90 tyre i use 103% just do the same recalc as above..
i tried both method (using that calc above and doing a tyre roll measurement on the floor using a meter) and the results are about the same..
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
i am not sure but how bout we connect it directly on ignition coil to that it can read accurately the rpm. i am correct any effect if i just connect it directly?
 

pEkz

Super Veteran
haen said:
installation is pretty straightforward for this meter since the details are well explained on the manual.. every cable is labeled..
but one thing still bugging me..
the RPM wire cable supposed to be connected / jumpered to the white pulser cable on the CDI.. but it gives inaccurate rpm reading.. it doesnt read anything under 3000 rpm..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4tAXlAjdY

one of the Malaysian user said connect it to the ORANGE cable.. which gives quite accurate reading.. although seems it still need rpm signal filtering..

also about tyre calibration.. i found for 70/90 tyre size the 100% setting is quite accurate contrary what was written on the manual.. (looks like it was a copy paste from a matic manual since tire size is about 14" rim)

doing some manual calculation :

70/90 tire size means = tyre height = 70 * 90% = 6,3 cm
add to 17 inch diameter = 17 x 2,54 cm = 43,18 cm
plus tyre height = 2 x 6,3 cm = 12,6 cm so total diameter of the tire is 43,18 + 12,6 = 55,78..
so.. total tyre circumference is = 3,14 x 55,78 = 175,1492 --> 100% value on the speedo

for 80/90 tyre i use 103% just do the same recalc as above..
i tried both method (using that calc above and doing a tyre roll measurement on the floor using a meter) and the results are about the same..
afaik you can connect it diractly to the ignotion coil so that you can have a reading of 3000rpm below...
 

haen

Super Veteran
pEkz said:
haen said:
installation is pretty straightforward for this meter since the details are well explained on the manual.. every cable is labeled..
but one thing still bugging me..
the RPM wire cable supposed to be connected / jumpered to the white pulser cable on the CDI.. but it gives inaccurate rpm reading.. it doesnt read anything under 3000 rpm..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4tAXlAjdY

one of the Malaysian user said connect it to the ORANGE cable.. which gives quite accurate reading.. although seems it still need rpm signal filtering..

also about tyre calibration.. i found for 70/90 tyre size the 100% setting is quite accurate contrary what was written on the manual.. (looks like it was a copy paste from a matic manual since tire size is about 14" rim)

doing some manual calculation :

70/90 tire size means = tyre height = 70 * 90% = 6,3 cm
add to 17 inch diameter = 17 x 2,54 cm = 43,18 cm
plus tyre height = 2 x 6,3 cm = 12,6 cm so total diameter of the tire is 43,18 + 12,6 = 55,78..
so.. total tyre circumference is = 3,14 x 55,78 = 175,1492 --> 100% value on the speedo

for 80/90 tyre i use 103% just do the same recalc as above..
i tried both method (using that calc above and doing a tyre roll measurement on the floor using a meter) and the results are about the same..
afaik you can connect it diractly to the ignotion coil so that you can have a reading of 3000rpm below...
yes, that already done.. i jumper it using the given connector to the orange cable..
 

Voldedore

New Member
Hi, can you help me about the temp sensor ?

Where can i connect it to my bike? T135 too.

It's a PT 1/8 temp sensor, it say "installed in the oil release hole"
I dont know where is that hole :(( If you can, show me some pic.

Really thanks !
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
haen said:
pEkz said:
haen said:
installation is pretty straightforward for this meter since the details are well explained on the manual.. every cable is labeled..
but one thing still bugging me..
the RPM wire cable supposed to be connected / jumpered to the white pulser cable on the CDI.. but it gives inaccurate rpm reading.. it doesnt read anything under 3000 rpm..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4tAXlAjdY

one of the Malaysian user said connect it to the ORANGE cable.. which gives quite accurate reading.. although seems it still need rpm signal filtering..

also about tyre calibration.. i found for 70/90 tyre size the 100% setting is quite accurate contrary what was written on the manual.. (looks like it was a copy paste from a matic manual since tire size is about 14" rim)

doing some manual calculation :

70/90 tire size means = tyre height = 70 * 90% = 6,3 cm
add to 17 inch diameter = 17 x 2,54 cm = 43,18 cm
plus tyre height = 2 x 6,3 cm = 12,6 cm so total diameter of the tire is 43,18 + 12,6 = 55,78..
so.. total tyre circumference is = 3,14 x 55,78 = 175,1492 --> 100% value on the speedo

for 80/90 tyre i use 103% just do the same recalc as above..
i tried both method (using that calc above and doing a tyre roll measurement on the floor using a meter) and the results are about the same..
afaik you can connect it diractly to the ignotion coil so that you can have a reading of 3000rpm below...
yes, that already done.. i jumper it using the given connector to the orange cable..
bro any update after you jumper it on the orange cable? no problem ecountered on the cdi unit?
 

idoy_23

Super Veteran
sniper135lc said:
haen said:
pEkz said:
haen said:
installation is pretty straightforward for this meter since the details are well explained on the manual.. every cable is labeled..
but one thing still bugging me..
the RPM wire cable supposed to be connected / jumpered to the white pulser cable on the CDI.. but it gives inaccurate rpm reading.. it doesnt read anything under 3000 rpm..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4tAXlAjdY

one of the Malaysian user said connect it to the ORANGE cable.. which gives quite accurate reading.. although seems it still need rpm signal filtering..

also about tyre calibration.. i found for 70/90 tyre size the 100% setting is quite accurate contrary what was written on the manual.. (looks like it was a copy paste from a matic manual since tire size is about 14" rim)

doing some manual calculation :

70/90 tire size means = tyre height = 70 * 90% = 6,3 cm
add to 17 inch diameter = 17 x 2,54 cm = 43,18 cm
plus tyre height = 2 x 6,3 cm = 12,6 cm so total diameter of the tire is 43,18 + 12,6 = 55,78..
so.. total tyre circumference is = 3,14 x 55,78 = 175,1492 --> 100% value on the speedo

for 80/90 tyre i use 103% just do the same recalc as above..
i tried both method (using that calc above and doing a tyre roll measurement on the floor using a meter) and the results are about the same..
afaik you can connect it diractly to the ignotion coil so that you can have a reading of 3000rpm below...
yes, that already done.. i jumper it using the given connector to the orange cable..
bro any update after you jumper it on the orange cable? no problem ecountered on the cdi unit?
paps kindly post the picture of your koso digital speedo....
 

traxxas-modifier

Super LOLO
Staff member
did you connect rpm in orange wire?
the manual says the rpm must be connected to the WHITE (pulser) wire in cdi.
whats the purpose of orange wire?

TIPS:
instead of using the midway connector for rpm.
its better to directly solder it in the white wire.

why?
because theres a chance that midway connector
will cut 1 or 2 strands of your white wire
when you use it. as times goes by if you remove
or moved the cables, it will flex and cut again additional wires.

or it will not connect correctly if its pressed lightly
thus providing inaccurate rpm.

i do suggest to solder it directly the rpm sensor wire to white wire.
thats what i did and runs perfectly!


@haen
ive done GPS testing with koso.

GPS TIRE CIRCUMFERENCE SETTING: 100%
FRONT TIRE: 90/80x17

Readings:
Koso speed: 137 kph
GPS Nokia N82: 133.2 kph
GPS Holux M1000: 135 kph

so a 90/80x17 tire front and
100% setting tire circuference on koso meter
will have 2% advanced inaccurate to REAL GPS SPEED

Heres a sample of the koso meter in action using tire circumference of 100% on 90/80 tire

[flash width=480 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/mxX3QYTTGW8&hl=en_US&fs=1[/flash]


FOR ACCURATE GPS SPEED :
use the ff setting:
90/80x17 front tire= KOSO TIRE CIRCUMFERENCE 98%

mine i set tire circumference to 100%
 

haen

Super Veteran
@traxx : i connect it to the white wire (pulser) and the result is just what the video shows, erratic behaviour.. its not a connection problem since i've already hardwired it..
anomalies i've found :
1. that orange wire gives more accurate signal (i asked mr. Vincent Tsai from KOSO TAIWAN about this and he suggests the same thing IF the WHITE WIRE doesnt work)
2. The turn signal light got reversed incorrectly in our wiring harness e.g : Left became Right and vice versa. Did u Sniper users got this kind of problem too ?
3. Regarding the GPS measurement, so far mine on 80/90 - 17 got it correctly on 103% compared with two GPSs same as yours traxx
N82
and
iGO GPS
if i set it on 100% i got slower about 3-4 km/h compared to GPS.
4. THE MOST ANNOYING is the bolt size of the temp sensor, why they give big size compared to 10 mm plug on the oil and water check bolts on the cyl head and block.. this requires us to get additional accessories from KOSO like that Water Temp Sensor Adaptor.
 
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