my simple and DIY modes fr. NE

[X1rCJ]

na-gets ko pero diko alam ang computation haha antok ba ito pano ba?

 

[X1rCJ]

ay, sorry double post. panu ba burahin. wa!

 

[chrisniper19]

gnwa mo na algebra paps ikaw na. dabest ka eh...

 

[axon]

gnwa mo na algebra paps ikaw na. dabest ka eh...

ha ha ha hindi naman bro basic lang yan , baka mas malito pag inilagay ko pa dito yun calculus namin dito nya ha ha ha later i'll post my formula in compression ratio thats more effective for me...base on my computation i got 11.7:1 medyo nasa critical na ko and really closed to detonation pag mali ang ginamit na octane rating so i need to do some adjustment pa,

kaya natatawa ako dati sa nabasa ko na post before di ko mataandaan kung dito o sa ibang site, yung set up daw nya is classified nya ha ha ha walang secret sa makina proper computation and formula used,
yan ang good foundation ...secret? di na uso yan lahat na ng tao nakakapag aral na he he he...at computer literate....

 

[chrisniper19]

banatan mo nga ng differential paps.tpos sbayan mo ng analytic pra dugo mode na . sang country ka nagwork?

 

[X1rCJ]

wahahahaha dudugo na utak ko nyan!

 

[axon]

dito sa bansa ni hittler he he he , wag na ok na maliit lang naman yun makina para mag post pa ko ng mga ibang formula he he he i'll try to make this thread more easier as much as i can para lahat maka relate di ba? lahat mi napupulot kahit mga napapadaan lang he he he

 

[chrisniper19]

e2 ang 2nay na guru hehehe.... d lang wido at talent ksma ung brains. un tlga dpat para sure ka sa ggwin mo inde trial mode lagi at pag ok na saka mo lang mssv aus pala un. peace..

 

[X1rCJ]

hihihihi

 

[axon]

e2 ang 2nay na guru hehehe.... d lang wido at talent ksma ung brains. un tlga dpat para sure ka sa ggwin mo inde trial mode lagi at pag ok na saka mo lang mssv aus pala un. peace..

thanks chrisniper19 for visiting this thread hope sana kahit na ga palay mi napulot ka bro he he he

hihihihi

snipercj ano napuyat ka ata yesterday kaka basa he he he andyan lang yan di ko pa naman isasara tong thread na to he he he take your time lahat magagawa nyo sa mc nyo disregard nyo na yun technical and fabrication work na post concentrate na lang sa proper tuning....

 

[kr.r_sniper]

thanks chrisniper19 for visiting this thread hope sana kahit na ga palay mi napulot ka bro he he he

1 Toneladang Palay na ang napulot ko dito Whewwwwwww UP for 65mm Bore kit by X1R weyting pa din aq sa Result ni TS...hehehehe

 

[axon]

1 Toneladang Palay na ang napulot ko dito Whewwwwwww UP for 65mm Bore kit by X1R weyting pa din aq sa Result ni TS...hehehehe

ha ha ha thanks bro, actually hinde naman sya ganun ka critical at for sure mi mga naka gamit na rin nito dito sa site natin ayaw lang mag share ang di natin alam kong positive or neg ang comments my primary concern ko dito is to squeeze out more power from 65mm bore and stroke cons, lang is yung init na ma produce nya sa combustion chamber i can do it in 11.7:1 CR pero masyadong ma stress ang head due to pressure produce and a few ml na paiikutin ng water pump sa block we can lower the CR to 9-10 bawas nga lang ang power ng makina, ikaw ang iniintay ko bro para sa big valve upgrade he he he wala pa ba? paki sabay na sa seat at yun details ng deposit eh di mo pa na pm masyadong bz ata bro he he he

 

[kr.r_sniper]

ha ha ha thanks bro, actually hinde naman sya ganun ka critical at for sure mi mga naka gamit na rin nito dito sa site natin ayaw lang mag share ang di natin alam kong positive or neg ang comments my primary concern ko dito is to squeeze out more power from 65mm bore and stroke cons, lang is yung init na ma produce nya sa combustion chamber i can do it in 11.7:1 CR pero masyadong ma stress ang head due to pressure produce and a few ml na paiikutin ng water pump sa block we can lower the CR to 9-10 bawas nga lang ang power ng makina, ikaw ang iniintay ko bro para sa big valve upgrade he he he wala pa ba? paki sabay na sa seat at yun details ng deposit eh di mo pa na pm masyadong bz ata bro he he he

BIG VALVE kasabay kxe ng AHM GOLD un dadating ndi pa tapos ung order namin eh within this week bigyan kta updates anyway weyt mode kmi,sa ngaun ok na bike ko same specs ang kinabit pero ndi na sumabog ehehehehe...GODSPEED AHEAD

 

[bart99]

Tindi ng Mentor ko German Boy subscribing, Boss minanual mo ba yung alloy or nireprogramed mo sa NC/CNC milling? yung outside cutting nya?

 

[X1rCJ]

thanks chrisniper19 for visiting this thread hope sana kahit na ga palay mi napulot ka bro he he he

snipercj ano napuyat ka ata yesterday kaka basa he he he andyan lang yan di ko pa naman isasara tong thread na to he he he take your time lahat magagawa nyo sa mc nyo disregard nyo na yun technical and fabrication work na post concentrate na lang sa proper tuning....

hahaha oo papz, kahit diko na makayanan antok ko talagang basa. hehehe onga papz, kung may tools/equipment lang ako na ganyan baka ganyan na din pinaggagawa ko. actually, ako na rin ang nagkabit ng block ko simula nung na-stock bike ko. tamang basa at aral lang ako so ayun, kahit papano masasabi ko na kaya kong buuin ang bike ko. hehehhe tsaka dagdag pa itong thread mo, lalo akong natututo ganon pa naman ako, pag nasimulan ko, go go go! hehe keep on going papz

 

[rowan]

ha ha ha i'm not a master pwede master sardines na kabarkada ni 555 at century tuna ha ha ha ha everyone can do it, and everyone can destroy it , kaya we got 2 meaning of DIY
Do It Yourself and Destroy It Yourself, yes motto lang yan pero yan ang totoo rigth?

in connection sa project, computation na ako sa compression ratio , and valve ratio to piston size,target intake and exhaust valve unknown
here the example i used and try to analyze it, why i need 23/20 and not 22/19 based on oem sizes sa mga newbie he he he para maunawaan natin kung bakit tayo nag papalit ng big valves this is one basic reason why ....everything in engineering involve ang math and this sniper engine is a basic example of 4 stroke with 1 piston 4 valves and 1 cam,

on stock
bore =54mm
in =19mm
ex = 17mm

on intake side first,

54bore /19intake = new bore 65/new intake size=X
simple equation for X
x=19mm intake x 65mm bore /54 oem
=22.85 mm intake for new 65mm piston

same formula i used for exhaust side
54bore /17exhaust =65bore /x

x=17mm ex. x 65mm /54 oem
=20.4mm exhaust

even we used ratio between bore and intake of stock and bore intake of new bore kit with above result
54/19=2.84

65/22.8=2.85

add lng bro axon.. kng sa mga serious modder dyan make sure yng combustion chamber nyo sa head is almost same with the stock computation with regards to bore kit 65mm. if not then ull get overcompression. were using same computation here jst like urs bro heheeh..but since yng cylinder head is getting lesser with its chamber size in relation to the bore ratio kng mag add ka like 65mm. in that case... mahirap mag mods sa head, to really get what bro axon's sharing mods , not unless tulad tau natin si mr. d.i.y. kagaling.

experienced ko bro axon before 61mm 22/19 considering 11.5 comp ratio medyu kulang yng 22 /19
as of experienced lng. try to lower the comp ratio i dont get the better rpm too ..
ewan need pa talaga marami ka pera para ma test lahat. in the end binenta ko yun last june pa.

now im using vixion kit with 22 /19 valves i get better result than of 61mm in terms of performance
try to ask traxx d effect,
wala na yng comp tester nmin kaya wala nko ma share kng anung comp ratio. unless may mag donate hahaha

remind ko ulit bro yng sa pag uwi mo heheheehe tanx

 

[axon]

add lng bro axon.. kng sa mga serious modder dyan make sure yng combustion chamber nyo sa head is almost same with the stock computation with regards to bore kit 65mm. if not then ull get overcompression. were using same computation here jst like urs bro heheeh..but since yng cylinder head is getting lesser with its chamber size in relation to the bore ratio kng mag add ka like 65mm. in that case... mahirap mag mods sa head, to really get what bro axon's sharing mods , not unless tulad tau natin si mr. d.i.y. kagaling.

experienced ko bro axon before 61mm 22/19 considering 11.5 comp ratio medyu kulang yng 22 /19
as of experienced lng. try to lower the comp ratio i dont get the better rpm too ..
ewan need pa talaga marami ka pera para ma test lahat. in the end binenta ko yun last june pa.

now im using vixion kit with 22 /19 valves i get better result than of 61mm in terms of performance
try to ask traxx d effect,
wala na yng comp tester nmin kaya wala nko ma share kng anung comp ratio. unless may mag donate hahaha

remind ko ulit bro yng sa pag uwi mo heheheehe tanx

that's it either 22/19 or 23/20 meron pros and cons akong nakikita, but in terms of durability i prepared 22/19 valves , and beside what is few mm less from exact ratio? its only 1mm 0.5 on both side rigth so yun kulang nun eh kaya ng habulin ng mga cam with high lift with longer duration right? so achieve pa rin natin ang valume ratio from cam adjustment, the cons using 23/20 is the space between two intake valve halos wala na silang clearance, in connection sa vixion kit yes iba bro ang vixion compare sa steel bore in terms of performance my bro has it, most biker misunderstood between size and quality, i'm planning to used this 65mm bore kit just only for fun and curiosity how much power ang maibibigay nya sa mc natin with proper Air Fuel ratio of 14.7? if i'm not satisfied back to vixion kit of 57mm and my valves is already match with this size,

no problem bro sa reminder mo he he he noted na .... i have compression tester the one i used in my car he he he

 

[rowan]

yes 22 19 u wont get much head ache compared to 23/20 ( the valve pocket also to be considered pag ganito gamitin na size)
23/20 is d max u can have without any offsetting the valve guide with our stock head.
but with you offsetting wont be a problem.hehehe

yes mahahabol lng sa cam duration and lift. pero yng higher lift downside hindi mo max out yng compression mo unless yng piston ang kapal pra sa valve pocket mo.but sa experienced we prefer not to use too much lift of cam unless ull go for drag racing, nor circuit race
to add :yup khit stage 2 lng cam mo talaga or even stage 1 lng ang ginagwa lng talaga hinahabol lng talaga yun sa porting ng head to achieve certain volume ratio. pero im not saying talagang same yng effect ng stage 1 sa stage 2 pero sa setting ng mc , maiihabol lng talaga

marami nga nag ask pwede ba 22/19 sa stock bore 54 mm?? of course yes. actually yan initial plan ko sa stock bore coz i want to use stock cam also pra stock talaga tunog. but then yun nga sa dami ng mamaw sa gensan (include mo dyan si admin natin the first culprit and upper valley boys) u wont stay with that displacement.

pero if u really want for curiosity sake then go ahead bro maganda d2 ksi, we are here to share hindi yng secret secret. wala nman kokontrang loko dyan kasi gamit mo yan hehehe.

to compare with my compression using 22/19 and vixion kit. basically to compare halos same lng cla ng stock bore pag sinipa mo yng kinuha na yng decomp assembly. merun kc nag uupgrade namproblema na sa starter. kc antigas daw pag bore up . sabagay i cant compre sa iba kc now yng prefer na set up is for long ride.. pero sabi ni traxx sana all in one na , pwede pang drag , pwede pang circuit, pwede pang waswas. at yun nkita ko sa mc ni admin hahahaha.

sana malapit ka lng d2 kc ganda ng mga roads d2 sa amin , kita mo c admin tsaka kimredbull walang ginawa kngdi mag waswas

@ all sana yng mga magaling dyan sa modification wag na kayo quite ng quite , mas maganda kc nagtutulungan lng at magshare pra yng mali or tama ay lalong ma improve pa. sa mga nagtatanong mas maganda backread muna .
as of experienced d2 sa forum bago ako magpamember backread po ako ng 1 year.
at wala po sa amin ang mechanic... ako nga taga timpla lng ng kape..

 

[axon]

good point bro, and that's my plan if i really need to use 23/30 and hugitin ang valve to offset nga then make an new guide and seats, but its gonna be a lot of effort, yes i can do that, but a few gain out from that size i still prepared sa stock form nya, using 19/ 22 yes bro regarding sa compression, a deep valve pocket is another way and more easy for me but then again i need to measure my piston crown baka hindi na sya ganun kakapal para sa tortured test na gagawin ko he he he and another good solution to make this project is by port and polish , in my opinion polish and sligthly port lang ako sa intake side, then on exhaust i made a little bit bigger than intake, maybe someone asking me why only slightly port and polish on intake ,
@all
bec i'm still believe sa principle ng air fuel velocity rather than volume capacity , just imagine hitit or suck air in hose , and an air in straw mas mabilis ang dating ng air sa straw right? kumpara sa hose, and vise verse mas marami naman sa hose pero mabagal, same principle sa exhasut side mas masarap bumuga sa maluwag na pipe he he he remember guys our engine is SOHC means 1 cam meron tinatawag na overlap between this two cam(intake and exhaust) in certain degree, dahil iisa sila we cannot do anything about it eto yun initial valve opening, yun exhaust side remain sligthly open while the exhaust cycle completed, during the overlap period the inlet valve remains high pressure until the exhaust valve closes, nag create ng momentary back flow sa inlet port, so vacuum po tayo sa intake not positve pressure( magiging positive pressure pag nag turbo charger na,) thats why i prepared na polish lang ng intake and slightly port ,para mas mabilis ang hitit , compared sa positive pressure created at the end of stroke, tanong bakit mas maliit ang exhaust valve kung mas maganda bumuga sa malaking pipe? later hahaba na masyado at tatamarin na kyong basahin he he he

hindi na uso yun secret.....tas sasabihin na classified set up...haaay hindi lang ikaw ang tao at marunong sa makina ha ha ha ...kami ren.....joke joke joke....

 

[axon]

mga bro pasensya na at wala kyong mapupulot sa akin regarding sa mga BODY KITS, REPLICA mga BLING BLING swing arm na napaka mahal na nag papahaba lang ng wheel base at mga accessories na hindi naman kailangan hindi po ako mahilig sa mga yan he he he until now stock pa rin ang kulay ng snipee ko tinangal ko na yun ibang decal at wala na pong sticker ni isaa pati yun ibang decal tatangalin ko na rin as in plain na sya this coming nov. para mapag kamalan na racal nya ha ha ha ha, pero sabi nga kanya kanyang trip yan ha ha ha