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Newbie Thread: Sniper150 "tune-up"

JapSpeed

Super Veteran
Hala sir japs, naku.. alam mo kac newbie lang kac ako sa may tachometer :D 4speed lang kac mot2 ko before. Ok lang ba yun na sa @5k-6k RPM 70kph or lower yung takbo ko sa 4th gear bago magshift sa 5th? Ang ingay na kac makina kaya d ko pinapataas ng 6-7k ang RPM ko kac umuugong at yung tunog nya is parang naka neutral na nirev na nasa 8k rpm ang tunog. :D
haha.. ako 2 days pa lng 10k rpm bago mg shift.. hehe.. di ka lng sanay cguro sa 150cc sir.. malaki yng engine mas maingay sir..
 

Exniper

New Member
haha.. ako 2 days pa lng 10k rpm bago mg shift.. hehe.. di ka lng sanay cguro sa 150cc sir.. malaki yng engine mas maingay sir..
Hehehe. Naninibago kac ako sa ingay during acceleration sir Japs kac nung bago pa yung mot2 kahit isagad ko 10k rpm hindi xa parang umuutong pero ngayong utong na utong hehe. Takot ako baka masira makina hahah.
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
Hehehe. Naninibago kac ako sa ingay during acceleration sir Japs kac nung bago pa yung mot2 kahit isagad ko 10k rpm hindi xa parang umuutong pero ngayong utong na utong hehe. Takot ako baka masira makina hahah.
if ang engine is nasa 150cc sadyang maingay lalo na yung clutch eratic ang idle di naman kasi pwede bumaba sa 1.3K yung idle nya.

regarding sa tach shifting indicator lang naman yan para di ka mag over rev. prefer ko na smooth riding at smooth shifting is within 4K to 5K rpm lang.

pag racing mode tsaka mo lang pabutin sa redline. pero ingatz din during racing mode kasi during down shifting kailangan match yung rev ng engine during down shifting if di maiwasan need i match yung rev by blipping the throttle.
 

Exniper

New Member
if ang engine is nasa 150cc sadyang maingay lalo na yung clutch eratic ang idle di naman kasi pwede bumaba sa 1.3K yung idle nya.

regarding sa tach shifting indicator lang naman yan para di ka mag over rev. prefer ko na smooth riding at smooth shifting is within 4K to 5K rpm lang.

pag racing mode tsaka mo lang pabutin sa redline. pero ingatz din during racing mode kasi during down shifting kailangan match yung rev ng engine during down shifting if di maiwasan need i match yung rev by blipping the throttle.
medyo napraktis ko na ang rev matching paps hehehe. d pa ako masyado expert. what do you mean mode paps? ako mag racing mode or and set sa odo panel ng sniper paps? by the way paps yung snipee q pumupugak kapag naka mag maintain ang speed. Pugak I mean yung parang hindi maintain ang speed, kahit anong speed paps ganun xa kahit nasa 7k or 8k rpm, pag imaintain ko yung speed kahit sa 5th gear kahit i maintain ko yung speed na yun parang tumatakbo na biglang break. parang ganun paps, d ko alam yung term.
 
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sniper135lc

Super Veteran
medyo napraktis ko na ang rev matching paps hehehe. d pa ako masyado expert heheh. what do you mean mode paps? ako mag racing mode or and set sa odo panel ng sniper paps? by the way paps yung s150 q pumupugak kapag naka mag maintain ng speed. Pugak I mean yung parang babagal bilis bagal bilis kaya minsan nabubungo yung ulo ng angkas ko sa akin, ano kaya problema ni mot2?
anu S150 paps?
 

Exniper

New Member
anu S150 paps?
medyo napraktis ko na ang rev matching paps hehehe. d pa ako masyado expert. what do you mean mode paps? ako mag racing mode or and set sa odo panel ng sniper paps? by the way paps yung snipee q pumupugak kapag naka mag maintain ang speed. Pugak I mean yung parang hindi maintain ang speed, kahit anong speed paps ganun xa kahit nasa 7k or 8k rpm, pag imaintain ko yung speed kahit sa 5th gear kahit i maintain ko yung speed na yun parang tumatakbo na biglang break. parang ganun paps, d ko alam yung term.
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
na revise ko na boss hehe. sniper150 .eheheh. boss. ang raider kac r150, ang roadsport ay rs150, ang sniper ay s150 hahah. ang sniper at raider naging rs :D may idea ka boss dun sa case ko?
Usually kasi sir depende sa timpla ng rpm vs sa km/h mo

For example if nasa 4th gear ka dapat nasa 80-100 takbo mo never let the engine bog down ibig sabihin i match mo yung gear sa gusto mong takbo
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
medyo napraktis ko na ang rev matching paps hehehe. d pa ako masyado expert. what do you mean mode paps? ako mag racing mode or and set sa odo panel ng sniper paps? by the way paps yung snipee q pumupugak kapag naka mag maintain ang speed. Pugak I mean yung parang hindi maintain ang speed, kahit anong speed paps ganun xa kahit nasa 7k or 8k rpm, pag imaintain ko yung speed kahit sa 5th gear kahit i maintain ko yung speed na yun parang tumatakbo na biglang break. parang ganun paps, d ko alam yung term.
Normal yan paps
Saakin nangyayari din yan siguro gawa ng 150cc na pero dapat compensated ng fi yan kasi may sensor sa pipe yan na mag babalance ng burn ng fuel pero try mo mag stick sa one brand ng fuel tapos yung average octane
 

Exniper

New Member
Normal yan paps
Saakin nangyayari din yan siguro gawa ng 150cc na pero dapat compensated ng fi yan kasi may sensor sa pipe yan na mag babalance ng burn ng fuel pero try mo mag stick sa one brand ng fuel tapos yung average octane
ano gamit mo na gas paps?
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
ano gamit mo na gas paps?
Patron XCS long milage at the same time clean engine.

2nd Option ko young Shell V power. per di ko lai ginagamit yan kasi high octane masyado mainit sa makina tsaka mabilis matuyo lalo na pag nakabilad ang motor pero sobrang lakas humatak then one click lang start aged.

dapat mid high octane lage para long life and engine.
 

JapSpeed

Super Veteran
Patron XCS long milage at the same time clean engine.

2nd Option ko young Shell V power. per di ko lai ginagamit yan kasi high octane masyado mainit sa makina tsaka mabilis matuyo lalo na pag nakabilad ang motor pero sobrang lakas humatak then one click lang start aged.

dapat mid high octane lage para long life and engine.
High Octane mas malamig compared sa regular gas. kaya nga ginagamit sa high compression engine. IMO
 

sniper135lc

Super Veteran
High Octane mas malamig compared sa regular gas. kaya nga ginagamit sa high compression engine. IMO
malamang tama ka sa scientific theory sir kasi ang Patron may high octane per di ganun kabilis mag init. but for my experience young v power ng shell is mabilis mag init sa engine ko may temp indicator kasi sa koso eh so kita ko comparison nung dalawang gasoline brand sa actual usage.
 

Exniper

New Member
High Octane mas malamig compared sa regular gas. kaya nga ginagamit sa high compression engine. IMO
malamang tama ka sa scientific theory sir kasi ang Patron may high octane per di ganun kabilis mag init. but for my experience young v power ng shell is mabilis mag init sa engine ko may temp indicator kasi sa koso eh so kita ko comparison nung dalawang gasoline brand sa actual usage.
Parang nawala ako bigla.. You lost me guys, hahah. Yung ginagamit ko kac is yung sa Patron na special yung 95ron ba yun, yun na ba yung XCS? Na try ko na din yung shell V power, sa experience ko lang ha, iba ung tunog ng makina ko sa petron at shell. haha.
 

JapSpeed

Super Veteran
okay my bad.. i am wrong.. but thanks to sir @sniper135lc na mention na about high octane..
bagong ka alaman:

The higher the octane, the harder it is for the fuel to ignite. The onlytime you will see a cylinder temp. drop is when you run a richer mixture or have a better than stock cooling system. In general terms...the more fuel you put in it, the cooler it runs, NOT the more OCTANE. The stoich level of race fuelis also a little different though. NA (naturally aspirated) stoich levels of say 110 octane is around 13.7 (depending on brand) instead of the industry typical 14.7 for 93 pump. So it can be confused with running cooler because the race fuelinherently burns at a richer (cooler) level than pump gas with no computer changes. FI (forced induction) cars have to run richer to keep detonation at bay at higher pressures. Pressure creates heat, heat adds to "hot spots"which if left unchecked, can turn red hot. That will cause pre-ignition (much more destructive than detonation).
 

Exniper

New Member
okay my bad.. i am wrong.. but thanks to sir @sniper135lc na mention na about high octane..
bagong ka alaman:

The higher the octane, the harder it is for the fuel to ignite. The onlytime you will see a cylinder temp. drop is when you run a richer mixture or have a better than stock cooling system. In general terms...the more fuel you put in it, the cooler it runs, NOT the more OCTANE. The stoich level of race fuelis also a little different though. NA (naturally aspirated) stoich levels of say 110 octane is around 13.7 (depending on brand) instead of the industry typical 14.7 for 93 pump. So it can be confused with running cooler because the race fuelinherently burns at a richer (cooler) level than pump gas with no computer changes. FI (forced induction) cars have to run richer to keep detonation at bay at higher pressures. Pressure creates heat, heat adds to "hot spots"which if left unchecked, can turn red hot. That will cause pre-ignition (much more destructive than detonation).
ilang beses ko talaga binasa boss para magets ko. :D medjo d ako makarelate pero very interesting to. Boss possible ba na masira yung timing chain ng sniper150? at ano yung signs?
 

JapSpeed

Super Veteran
ilang beses ko talaga binasa boss para magets ko. :D medjo d ako makarelate pero very interesting to. Boss possible ba na masira yung timing chain ng sniper150? at ano yung signs?
yes sir pero masisira yn mga 5 years cguro.. and pg sira na timing chain mo mg kiss piston mo at valves. talagang maingay..
 
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